#AIChat is a Twitter chat on artificial intelligence.
Its purpose? To demystify artificial intelligence (AI)
Today’s guest?
Professor Marian Mazzone (her Twitter handle? @MarianMazzone), Associate Professor, Modern and Contemporary Art at the College of Charleston (the College’s Twitter handle? @CofC).
The topic? Talking AI and art. Based on this article: https://www.newscientist.com/article/2139184-artificially-intelligent-painters-invent-new-styles-of-art/#.W2CnLRqXcIk.twitter
P.S. Mistakes are mine.
P.P.S. Professor Mazzone’s websites:
https://marianmazzone.weebly.com/
http://arthistory.cofc.edu/about-the-department/faculty-and-staff/mazzone.php
Here’s a summary of Professor Mazzone’s #AIChat:
Let’s hit the ground running.
Here’s question #1 for Professor @MarianMazzone:
You have an unconventional background. How did you become interested in artificial intelligence? #AIChat pic.twitter.com/yj6wBx3gfO
— Nick Tang (@nickhtang) November 7, 2018
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I teach contemporary art, and became interested in artists working in “new media”, what we in the American art history world call computer-based art. So, wanted to know more about how and why that kind of work came about, and to understand what artists need to do to make work.
— Marian Mazzone (@MarianMazzone) November 7, 2018
That meant reading about computation, discovering what computer scientists were doing with art work, and then trying to find someone to collaborate with from that world. I reached out to Professor Ahmed Elgammal at Rutgers.
— Marian Mazzone (@MarianMazzone) November 7, 2018
A1) did Professor Ahmed Elgammal give you any further advice on how to mesh #AI and #art 🌎? #AIChat
— Nick Tang (@nickhtang) November 7, 2018
Not sure if my answer to the question came through: I work with him and his grad students, going up once a year to do an art history “bootcamp” for the students, and we toss ideas back and forth about new things to try, such as Shape of Art History https://t.co/7KN0AV5Ewc
— Marian Mazzone (@MarianMazzone) November 7, 2018
Here’s question #2 for Professor @MarianMazzone:
How can #AI be used in the art world? #AIChat pic.twitter.com/4wQq2Nbq7L
— Nick Tang (@nickhtang) November 7, 2018
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A2) determing a workable formula for creating something (a parallel process to human creativity) is challenging. And of course this issue of creativity runs right into the sensitive area in art of what creativity is, and whether something is “art”.
— Marian Mazzone (@MarianMazzone) November 7, 2018
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A2) is this why everyone in the art world is having problems when it comes to #AI and #art Professor @MarianMazzone? #AIChat
— Nick Tang (@nickhtang) November 7, 2018
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Absolutely. I had more concerned messages/questions from artists on the CAN paper than anyone. Let me stress: machine learning cannot/will not replace human creativity! They’re not the same, they are parallel. Instead artists can begin to think of working with AI as a partner
— Marian Mazzone (@MarianMazzone) November 7, 2018
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I think it is important to note that with the hyper blending of styles, entire movements may be started within the art world by AI. That is weird to think of in regards to most art movements having a social cause behind them.
— US Cybersecurity Mag (@USCyberMag) November 7, 2018
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To follow, I ask whether AI could be created by malicious actors to help spread propaganda within the art world? I love the idea of AI aiding art, but thinking about the potentially dangerous sides is always interesting.
— US Cybersecurity Mag (@USCyberMag) November 7, 2018
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This is where Art & #AI #cybersecurity mesh as through visual or audio embedded code could monitor as well as update 🌐🤔 #AIChat
— BrainBlender🤔🌐 (@BrainBlenderTec) November 7, 2018
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Of course the work that was sold at Christies recently didn’t help. There are better examples out there of high-level engagement with the issues and the tools of AI. And better art!
— Marian Mazzone (@MarianMazzone) November 7, 2018
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But you must also accept that more & more creative art is being produced by #AI as words are transferred to images & songs into landscapes which creates an interactive environment 🌐😎 #AIChat
— BrainBlender🤔🌐 (@BrainBlenderTec) November 7, 2018
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True, there is a difference between creative art more broadly, and visual art with its particular history. Will we want to retain visual art, or subsume it into an environmental combination of sound, sight, words, places?
— Marian Mazzone (@MarianMazzone) November 7, 2018
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or a space? 3 D ultimately, something we go into….
— Marian Mazzone (@MarianMazzone) November 7, 2018
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Yes as the micro bead structures change to personal cues & are amazing but it takes performance & stationary art to new levels 🤔 #AIChat
— BrainBlender🤔🌐 (@BrainBlenderTec) November 7, 2018
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As you’re talking on Q2, here’s question 3 for Professor @MarianMazzone.
Do you see the lines getting blurry between the human painter and #AI? #AIChat pic.twitter.com/lIzolsaL4S
— Nick Tang (@nickhtang) November 7, 2018
A3) One of the reasons AI work has come up in contemporary art is the shift away from the dominance of painting in this period. Conceptual art is the better connection: it can manifest in a variety of physical materials/forms, but the thought process of the art production is key.
— Marian Mazzone (@MarianMazzone) November 7, 2018
Actually Im no connoisseur of modern art but classic art well I can appreciate ( can #AI make comparable art of the ancient masterworks?? YES. #aichat
— Jan Barbosa 🐝 (@JBarbosaPR) November 7, 2018
#AI with a 3D printer could make lets say a statue of david vs goliath and change it to the buyers tastes.. smaller / bigger / david holding golath head / anything and be made in hours. lets call it art in the go. #aichat
— Jan Barbosa 🐝 (@JBarbosaPR) November 7, 2018
Not unlike how artists had workshops in the past, made work to order, and made multiples if clients liked a work and wanted one for themselves. AI may change the production/consumption patterns again!
— Marian Mazzone (@MarianMazzone) November 7, 2018
While we’re talking on Q2 and Q3, here’s the last question for Professor @MarianMazzone.
Q4) What’s the role of the generative adversarial network in the process? #AIChat pic.twitter.com/RAvf9Y4sbN
— Nick Tang (@nickhtang) November 7, 2018
#aichat the invention of the #photography triggered the avant-garde movements. In the case we can get a #AI which can imitate the #art (in appearance at least) of the humans and, doing a little of sci-fi, do you think it could happen a similar shake of the art movements?
— Juan de la Cruz (@jdelacruz_IoT) November 7, 2018
This is a good point you make. Photography changed how artists saw, and how they then made images. It is entirely likely that work generated by AI will also affect how artists see: it becomes a feedback loop!
— Marian Mazzone (@MarianMazzone) November 7, 2018